The Troubles

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Plasticbattle
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Blev medlem: 26 jan 2012, 16:50
Ort: Sollentuna, Stockholm

Re: The Troubles

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Regarding the Saladin, its quite possible the "standard" was changed/adapted for street policing in N.Ireland. Things like mirrors could be reduced in size rather than being broken off. I dont know enough about these vehicles to say. If its really important to get it right, I have contacts who may help here. Let me know.
Some useable and recognised nationalist street names could be; Divis street, Short Strand, Ormeau Road, Antrim Road, Falls Road
Senast redigerad av Plasticbattle den 24 okt 2017, 21:34, redigerad totalt 1 gånger.
Frank Glackin

The problem with common sense, is that it´s not that common!

http://plastic-battle.blogspot.se/
Horrocks
Inlägg: 386
Blev medlem: 27 maj 2015, 13:18
Namn: Johannes Linder

Re: The Troubles

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It is definitely a small detail. Looking more closely, it seems actually as the small mirrors was used originally as on the older top picture, but was changed later to somewhat larger one (looks more 70´s in design) as in bottom picture from Northern Ireland, i.e. the kit is probably correct. Anyway, they both look quite fragile, why I a feeling they disappeared quite fast in action. I chose to not use the mirrors at all (looking an pictures, it seems to been a common option).

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I probably will choose a invented street name. Actual street name may add accuracy to some extent, but create new problems from my perspective. It would be a nice touch if I had a reasonably accurate replica of an actual building from that street, preferably based on period picture with correct features, possible mural, etc. But since the building is invented, I believe the street name will have to be invented as well. It depends on how far you want to go - I actually have not seen hard evidence that Saladins were used in Belfast - most pictures of these vehicle are either from Derry (likely Operation Motorman) or from the countryside.

Some small additional modeling ongoing. A trash can made by thick aluminium foil shaped around a suitable bottle cap.

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Some dents and weathering added
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Plasticbattle
Inlägg: 741
Blev medlem: 26 jan 2012, 16:50
Ort: Sollentuna, Stockholm

Re: The Troubles

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Anyway, they both look quite fragile, why I a feeling they disappeared quite fast in action
I can attest to that, and the Saladin wasn’t the only vehicle to suffer from this. Have seen this several times at football matches where fans break off the wing mirrors to taunt the soldiers. As thousands leave the arena, they line the vehicles to channel the fans away. As the soldiers are mostly no need to shave 17 years old and carrying heavy automatic weapons, on their first tour of duty it becomes quite a surreal situation. Donegal played Derry the day after the Shankill Road bombing in Casement Park, Belfast. There was a huge army and police presence as the UVF threatened to retaliate, and the same thing happened. Needless to say, we didn’t hang around any longer than necessary.
Senast redigerad av Plasticbattle den 24 okt 2017, 21:35, redigerad totalt 1 gånger.
Frank Glackin

The problem with common sense, is that it´s not that common!

http://plastic-battle.blogspot.se/
Horrocks
Inlägg: 386
Blev medlem: 27 maj 2015, 13:18
Namn: Johannes Linder

Re: The Troubles

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Börjar närma mig slutspurten. Har lagt till en figur till efter inspiration från denna bild.
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Skuylle helst velat få till en tidstypisk rutig brun-orange-gul klänning eller nåt i den stilen, men det ligger långt utanför min figurmålningskompetens.

Tillverkade en tidning av tunnt papper och la till lite annat småskräp.

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Plasticbattle
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Blev medlem: 26 jan 2012, 16:50
Ort: Sollentuna, Stockholm

Re: The Troubles

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Red brick terrass houses were common in working class areas like I mentioned above. Great job on the rubbish bin ... its a very important detail in nationalist areas. Women and children would lift the lids off and bang them on the streets to warn those in hiding when the army/police entered the area. Those few minutes gave them time to escape or move an arms cache. School unforms for small girls in the area would never be orange. Brown maybe, but the majority would be green colours. Saladins were used in Belfast as well. The Life Guards were stationed in both Derry and Belfast and had Saladins initially.
Frank Glackin

The problem with common sense, is that it´s not that common!

http://plastic-battle.blogspot.se/
Stellan
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Re: The Troubles

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Tycker du gjort ett fantastiskt fint arbete så här långt. Flickan ser lagom trotsig ut.

Lucky man-aktuelle James Nesbitt spelar i filmen Bloody Sunday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6zvb0naOZo
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